Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #245 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 21 Jan 99 Volume 16 : Issue 245 Today's Topics: (Q) Drive Setup and Unsupported Drives [A] Application Switcher Applescripts (Mac OS 8.5 help viewer) [A] Application Switcher Applescripts (Mac OS 8.5 help viewer) [A]: Starmax CD Problems [Q] DOS card printing to Laserwriter Plus [Q] MSIE 4.5 and Newsreader Alarm Clock and Y2K G3 PB, 12" or 14"? Initio U2W, Softraid, Viking II LVD Net problem with 8.5.1 Newton Battery Pack: summary of responses Newton Battery Packs Info-Mac Digest V16 #244 Optimizing G3s PB 5300 issues SE30 blank Screen problem The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. 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Or, click . * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at the URL below: * Search the archive at . Info-Mac volunteers include Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Michael Bean, Liam Breck, Hugh Lewis, Tom Coradeschi, and Shawn Bunn. The Info-Mac Digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, developers of Internet server software for the Macintosh, including Web and email publishing systems. We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #245" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:11:00 -0000 From: "Tucker, Bryan (NMSVAX36)" Subject: (Q) Drive Setup and Unsupported Drives I have a Maxtor LXT213SY c.200Mb hard drive but can't get it to be 'bootable'. I can successfully format it using 'Third party' formatting utilities and install a system on it. But even when selected as the startup disk, the Mac doesn't recognise the disk at system start and defaults to the original system disk. I think (and this is pure speculation) that I need to run Apple's Drive Setup to make the disk 'bootable', but the application reports that it can't modify an 'unsupported drive'. Anybody got any suggestions? Regards. Bryan Tucker. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 06:15:11 PST From: "Randall G. Floyd" Subject: [A] Application Switcher Applescripts (Mac OS 8.5 help viewer) >Hi, >In the Mac OS 8.5.1 help viewer, under application switching are links to >a couple of applescripts for customizing the application switcher >floating palatte. Does anyone know where these scripts acutally reside? I >can't seem to find them and would like to modify one to open the app. >switcher at startup to the lower left corner, horizontal view, in order >of launch. >Please reply to >Thanks, >Scott Horton Hi Scott, They're at: Macintosh HD:System Folder:Help:Mac OS Help:fp:shrd: You can open the Dictionary of 'Application Switcher' in the Extensions folder to find the specific parameters. There's also some Applescripts out there that have an interface built in so you can choose the parameters using dialogs. Randall ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:49:35 -0700 From: Bruce Carter Subject: [A] Application Switcher Applescripts (Mac OS 8.5 help viewer) >In the Mac OS 8.5.1 help viewer, under application switching are links to >a couple of applescripts for customizing the application switcher >floating palatte. Does anyone know where these scripts acutally reside? I >can't seem to find them and would like to modify one to open the app. >switcher at startup to the lower left corner, horizontal view, in order >of launch. They, and other AppleScripts, can be found in various places in the Help folder inside the System folder. They have some weird names, though. The ones you're particularly interested in can be found at: Your HD Name:System Folder:Help:Mac OS Help:fp:shrd: as AppSwitcherLowerLeft AppSwitcherLowerRight AppSwitcherRestoreDefaults fpShwAppSwtchr You can also learn fun things by looking at the Application Switcher extension dictionary with ScriptEdit (or another AppleScript editing application). -- Bruce Carter, Division Manager Instructional Development Division SMITC, Boise State University, Boise, ID 83725 (208)426-1851@voice mailto:bcarter@mentor.idbsu.edu (208)426-1856@fax http://mentor.idbsu.edu/BruceCarter/home.html (208)384-2084@pager ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:01:58 -0500 From: shorton Subject: [A]: Starmax CD Problems Info-Mac 1/19/99 3:32 PM >Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:46:03 EST >From: Mercibeate@aol.com >Subject: Starmax CD Problems > > >Hi Folks, > >I use a Starmax 3000/180 at work (the only Mac in an all PC shop), >running 7.5.3 and FWB CD toolkit software. I recently tried to update to >7.6.1 but the computer would not boot from a CD. I tried using "Startup >Disk" and rebooting with the "c" held down, but no luck. I can tell the >system is trying to access the cd at startup because I feel it >spinning-up. BTW, the CD is accessible from the desktop _after_ bootup >from the HD. > >Any suggestions on solving this problem would be greatly appreciated.. > >TIA, > >Rob I have the same machine at work and had the same problem. I created a startup disk on a zip and use that for booting the Mac. Then I did a clean install (I now have 8.1 on that machine). I suppose that if you are doing a clean install you can boot from the internal hard disk as well, but won't be able to update the hard disk driver. This could be a problem if you use Apple's drivers, but I have used FWB's HDTC (v2.5.3) on this machine so I wasn't concerned. I also have found that the Apple CD ROM extension in system 7.6 is the last one that will support the internal (IDE) CD drive in the Starmax. After upgrading to system 8.0 and 8.1, the CD wouldn't work with the newer driver, but replacing it with the older one works just fine. I'm sure there is a way to use resedit to hack the driver and make it work, but you don't have to bother. Just keep the 7.6 extension around when upgrading or you can use FWBs CD ROM toolkit (most recent version 3.01 I believe) which supports that CD just fine. Booting from the 7.6 install CD was not possible for me. Good luck, Scott Horton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:57:15 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Wessels Subject: [Q] DOS card printing to Laserwriter Plus I tried this on Apple's tech support forum, but got no response. So I'll try here. Problem: Cannot print from Windows 95 on a DOS card to a Laserwriter Plus. Configuration: Quadra 610 DOS, 486sx 25Mhz replaced by 486DX 50Mhz, Mac OS 8.0, Windows 95. Questions: What type of printer should I configure Windows for? I am trying to print from Windows 95 on the DOS card to a Laserwriter Plus. I assume I can specify this printer for what it is, and not as an Epson. When I try to print, this comes out: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: setlinewidth STACK: /Lw Now, I know somewhere in the TIL it says, "Quadra 610 DOS + Centris 610 with 486sx (25Mhz) PC card are not compatible with Windows 95." However, it works, possibly because I have used an online tip to swap the chip for a 486DX/50Mhz. Everything works fine. I think this is just a printer configuration issue. Both Mac and DOS card have plenty of memory. Not much I can do to jazz up the Laserwriter Plus (hey, it was free). Any ideas? Thanks. Brian Wessels == Brian Wessels work:wesselsb@nortelnetworks.com private:Brian_Wessels@yahoo.com This is my private, "permanent" email address. Worried about Y2K? Buy a Macintosh. Y2K safe since 1984. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:00:35 -0500 From: robert.girouard@tcs.wap.org Subject: [Q] MSIE 4.5 and Newsreader I am using MSIE 4.5 on a 6100/66 Mac with 40M of ram and MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4. I have the Protocol Helpers in MSIE's Preference set to use MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4, but when I click on a Usenet link in MSIE, I get the alert box " Explorer is not configured to handle news. Install M/S Outlook Express or use the Protocol Helpers Panel in Preferences to configure Explorer for your news application." What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions on how to correct this? Many thanks, Bob G. "If there really is a God who created the entire universe with all of its glories, and He decides to deliver a message to humanity, He will not use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle." Dave Barry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:41:13 -0800 From: Leslie_Ballentine@sfu.ca Subject: Alarm Clock and Y2K Apple Computer's desk accessory "Alarm Clock" displays the year 2000 as "0". Not even "00", but just "0". Can Apple, or someone, be persuaded modify that DA to give a 4-digit display for the year? (Or is there a newer version that I don't know about, which does the job?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:47:24 -0500 From: Neal Lipschutz Subject: G3 PB, 12" or 14"? I know, I know this sounds like a snooty question but I'd really like some input from you guys. I've had my PB 100 for the past 5 years and it's earned it's retirement. I'm about to purchase (my wife's 50th B-Day present to me) a G3 PB but which one? I'll basically use the new PB for word processing (I'm a teacher) and downloading and manipulating jpegs from my digital camera. Obviously the 14" for 2,499 with an additional 64 Mg RAM thrown in (MacMall) looks great as opposed to the 12"er for 1,999 which I thought was perfectly fine until I actually saw the 14". The 2,499 is really pushing the price envelope. Is this just simple case of monitor envy? 1) If I go for the 14" are there enough resources (L2 cache, VRAM) to power the PB properly? 2) Or should I just get the 12"? 3) What's currently the best place to purchase the PB? Thanks for hearing me out and for any suggestions that you may have. Neal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:02:26 +0000 From: "Peter Dollé" Subject: Initio U2W, Softraid, Viking II LVD --------------45485B49AFAA1674B88A9D6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Configuration * Mac 8600/200 / 192 ram / OS 8.1 * original hd 2G on Bus o, ID 0 / driver: Mac drive setup 1.4 (Dutch version) * two internal viking II Lvd (U2W) 4,5 G (TP removed on both disks, SCSI termination on SCSI cable, Bus 2 ID 4 & 6) * PCI Initio Miles U2W on Bus 2, ID 7 Problem * with Strata Videoshop 3.0.4 and Edit DV 1.1.1 o saving a recorded video (both small and large) to the original HD (HFS) works perfect o saving a recorded video (both small and large) to a single Viking drive on the Miles card (initialized with Mac Drive Setup in HFS format and with the mac driver installed) works perfect o saving a small or large recorded video to a single Viking drive on the Miles card (initialized with softraid 2.1.5 in HFS format and with the softraid driver installed) doesn't work o saving a recorded video (both small and large) to the Viking drives on the Miles card in RAID O or 1 (initialized with softraid 2.1.5 in HFS format and with the softraid driver installed) doesn't work * with MacBench 5.0 o All MacBench drive tests works fine on a single Viking initialized with mac drive setup o random write 512 test on a single Viking II initialized with softraid and with the softraid driver installed doesn't work. I get the same situation in raid 0 and 1 Are my drives not compatible with softraid? Is the Initio card the problem Is MacBench, Strata Videoshop, Edit DV the cause? !!!! Strange: Apple video player 1.7.2 works fine in all situations!!!! Peter Dolle peter.dolle@sip.be --------------45485B49AFAA1674B88A9D6B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Configuration
  • Mac 8600/200 / 192 ram / OS 8.1
  • original hd 2G on Bus o, ID 0 / driver:  Mac drive setup 1.4 (Dutch version)
  • two internal viking II Lvd (U2W) 4,5 G (TP removed on both disks, SCSI termination on SCSI cable, Bus 2 ID 4 & 6)
  • PCI Initio Miles U2W on Bus 2, ID 7
Problem
  • with Strata Videoshop 3.0.4 and Edit DV 1.1.1
    • saving a recorded video (both small and large) to the original HD (HFS) works perfect
    • saving a recorded video (both small and large) to a single Viking drive on the Miles card (initialized with Mac Drive Setup in HFS format and with the mac driver installed) works perfect
    • saving a small or large recorded video to a single Viking drive on the Miles card (initialized with softraid 2.1.5 in HFS format and with the softraid driver installed) doesn't work
    • saving a recorded video (both small and large) to the Viking drives on the Miles card in RAID O or 1 (initialized with softraid 2.1.5 in HFS format and with the softraid driver installed) doesn't work
  • with MacBench 5.0
    • All MacBench drive tests works fine on a single Viking initialized with mac drive setup
    • random write 512 test on a single Viking II initialized with softraid and with the softraid driver installed doesn't work. I get the same situation in raid 0 and 1
Are my drives not compatible with softraid?
Is the Initio card the problem
Is MacBench, Strata Videoshop, Edit DV the cause?
!!!! Strange: Apple video player 1.7.2 works fine in all situations!!!!

Peter Dolle
peter.dolle@sip.be
  --------------45485B49AFAA1674B88A9D6B-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:59:29 +0000 From: Michel Treisman Subject: Net problem with 8.5.1 Can someone help with this problem, getting on to the net reliably? (PowerMac 7300, running MacOs 8.5.1) I have run TechTool Pro and Disk First Aid, Rebuilt the desktop, and zapped the PRAM. I have removed the operating system (8.5.1)and reinstalled MacOs 8.5 and re-updated to 8.5.1. But even running with the original bare system, with NO additional control panels or extensions added, the following intermittent failure happens. Not every time I start up, but often. When I start my Mac up, sometimes my ethernet connection comes up (fine), and sometimes it doesn=92t. In the latter case, I open Appletalk and find it set to Ethernet. It may also say . If I wait, sometimes it will find a zone on our intranet, and then I can re establish contact with the network. Other times the message changes to . In this case I have to restart, and perhaps I will be on the net. It is unpredictable. I don=92t think the fault is in the hardware, because when I start up on MacOs 8.1 (on a different partition of the same hard disk) it always works. So what should I do now? Is there a problem with Open Transport (2.0.2)? Should I try substituting the Open Transport extensions from System 8.1 and seeing if they work better? Mike Michel Treisman Department of Experimental Psychology South Parks Road Oxford OX1 3UD UK Tel +44 (0) 1865 271319 Fax +44 (0) 1865 310447 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:03:16 -0600 From: "A. Scottedward Hodel" Subject: Newton Battery Pack: summary of responses Thanks to all who responded to my question on replacement rechargable battery packs. Here is a summary of what I received in reply: * I have a Newton MP 120; this was left out of the original note, and changes the answer to the question of how to get spare batteries. * Sources for "vintage" Apple/Newton parts are: - http://www.sunrem.com. You can get spare battery packs for the 2100, but for the 120 you must exchange the battery you have (can't just order a spare). - One individual has used Rayovac rechargables and nothing else on his 2100. - Another writes: "FWIW, I bought 4 NiCad AAA batteries, put them in the Alkaline battery holder, I had and put a small piece of tape in my MP100's battery compartment to hold the small blue sensing switch in, at the end of the compartment." - (http://www.smalldog.com) has batteries for the MP 2100. - Most vendors do have battery rechargers and power adapters available for all models. A S Hodel Assoc. Prof. Dept Elect Eng, Auburn Univ,AL 36849-5201 On leave at NASA Marshall Space Flight Center (256) 544-1426 Address:Mail Code ED-13, MSFC, Alabama, 35812 http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~scotte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:38:23 -0500 From: rob Subject: Newton Battery Packs Info-Mac Digest V16 #244 quoting Info-Mac and possibly previous message abstract: > >Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:20:31 -0500 >From: Dave Reiser >Subject: Newton Battery Packs > > >>The rechargeable battery on my Newton is beginning to age; unfortunately, >>I didn't think to order spares when Apple jettisonned the Newton. The >>Newton manual indicates that standard NiCad rechargable batteries should >>not be used, so I apparently need to find an alternative. I >>was unable to find Newton batteries listed at the Apple Store, MacMall and >>MacWarehouse. Are there any suggestions out there (less expensive than >>a Palm Pilot :-) ) for replacement battery packs for a Newton? >>A S Hodel Assoc. Prof. Dept Elect Eng, Auburn Univ,AL >>On leave at NASA Marshall Space Flight Center >>http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~scotte > >A couple weeks ago, anyway, Smalldog (http://www.smalldog.com) had more >than a dozen left. > >Dave > >Dave Reiser >dbr@ptd.net I have sucessfully used NiMh Individual cells with very good results. The cells are from Radioshack and a NiMh charger as well is used to charge them. I am getting 5 or more times the performance of the NiCad cells supplied from Apple. No problems with usage after 4 months. >--- (_o^o_) ----- a wise ass -----< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:48:21 -0600 From: Ted Logan Subject: Optimizing G3s At 5:10 PM -0400 on 1/18/99, Beth Ernst wrote: > I need to optimize the drives on our G3s. I've always used Nortons Speed > Disk in the past but have read several negative articles on the new version. > We are running OS 8.1, does anyone have any recommendations or suggestions, > good or bad experiences they can share with me on optimizing. Only one of > our machines is formatted HFS Plus, the rest are all Standard HFS. Norton Utilities for the Macintosh (NUM) 4.0 handles HFS+ as well as standard HFS drives. I think NUM is all we have for optimizing (not TechTools or anything else). Best to also download Symantec's patcher for Norton Disk Doctor 4.01 to see if you need that, too. Hope you don't because it's a pain. Ted Logan Logan Writing, Inc. Cleveland, Oklahoma tedlogan@busprod.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 99 15:02:59 -0800 From: "Ed D. Wright" Subject: PB 5300 issues To: Info Mac From: Ed Wright Question- I've been asked to resolve a minor issue with a PB 5300, unfortunately none of the manuals can be found. Various sources state the PB 5300 can be connected to another Mac (desktop) via a SCSI type cable with the result the PB's HD will appear as an external disk to the other Mac. I found what I believe to be the correct cable (short - 10-11", grey) shut down everything, plugged in, with a terminator between the SCSI cable from the Q630 and the grey PB cacble, then restarted the PB. The PB screen is blank until I start the other Mac (Q630), at which time two arrows appear. Afterwards, the Q630 seems to stop. So what I do wrong? I gave the PB a SCSI address in the SCSI Disk Mode control panel, no other SCSI devices during the test. Both Macs run 8.0, though the SCSI control panel on the PB is 7.3.2. Any pointers, hints, a manual? As always, Ed Wright JPL/NAIF Team ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:31:02 -0700 From: "David Asarnow" Subject: SE30 blank Screen problem My SE30 starts up with a normal chime and hard drive noise, and the screen lights up but always remains blank (all gray). The hard disk is fine (I tested it in another Mac). Any suggestions on fixing this? -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************